APPENDIX
No:
20 - Turramurra
Centre and Site Specific Submission Summary and Response Table |
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Item
No:
GB.1 |
Matter
Related to specific Areas & Properties
THEME |
ISSUE/CONCERN |
COMMENT |
RECOMMENDATION |
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Building
heights - general |
If
Turramurra is defined as a village under the urban consolidation plan, we
strongly object to the 3-5 storey buildings in Turramurra around the |
Turramurra
is not classified as a Village. The
existing building heights within the draft LEP area currently vary from 2, 3,
4 and 5 storeys in height. A
two storey height limit across all of Turramurra is not realistic. |
No
action recommended. |
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Building
height - general |
Should
be an absolute ceiling of 5 storeys on future development in the village
centre. If possible, 2 storeys should be approved. |
The
draft LEP proposes a maximum building height in Turramurra of 5 storeys. There
is one exception to this where the properties nos.1440-1444 Pacific Highway
are shown with a seven storey height. This is an inconsistency that can be
rectified and should be rectified to show 17.5 metres (5 storeys) height. |
That
the maximum building height for property 1440, 1444, 1444A Pacific Highway known as 1
Lamond Drive,
Turramurra be amended to 17.5 metres. |
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Building
heights - general |
Proposed
building heights of 5-7 storeys not appropriate. 3-5 storeys preferred. |
The
draft LEP proposes a maximum building height in Turramurra of 5 storeys. There
is one exception to this where the properties nos.1440-1444 Pacific Highway
are shown with a seven storey height. This is an inconsistency that can be
rectified and should be rectified to show 17.5 metres (5 storeys) height. |
See
above |
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Open
space - general |
Submission
requests provision for permanent open space where there are existing council
car parks. |
The
draft LEP shows two locations for proposed new parks: - an area of 2,700sqm on the corner of Duff
Street and Allan Avenue; and - an area of 2,600sqm on the corner of
Gilroy Road (as an expansion of Cameron Park) |
No
action recommended. |
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Building
heights – general |
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Any
impacts, including potential overshadowing, on Blue Gum High Forest will need
to be considered in detail at DA stage for any development on sites which
contain or adjoin this ecological community. The number of storeys identified
in the plan is a maximum and does not mean that the identified number of
storeys will be achieved across a site. The design of a development will need
to be informed not only by the height permitted, but also the floor space
ratio, site topography, context, presence of threatened ecological
communities and a range of DCP controls. |
No
action recommended. |
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Building
heights - general |
Does
not support reclassification of community land to operational. |
Reclassification
is not a matter for consideration under the current draft LEP. |
No
action recommended. |
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Building
heights - general |
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No
action recommended. |
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Building
heights - general |
I
moved here for the quiet, the leafy streets, beautiful houses and gardens,
proximity to and small scale of shops and services. The proposed plan would
destroy this. Original buildings should be conserved, height should be
generally to 3 storeys, with 5 only where it does not overshadow neighbours. |
Development
feasibility studies undertaken by Council’s consultant land economists in the
past confirm the submission’s claims that development in the commercial areas
is unlikely to be feasible under the draft LEP. Consequently, the proposed
plan as exhibited is likely to see very little change or revitalisation in
Turramurra in the commercial areas. |
No action recommended. |
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Building
heights - general |
Ugly
oversized buildings have destroyed the streetscape, landscape and general
well being of these beautiful suburbs. 5 storey development of mix commercial
and shop top housing on the Franklins site, Ray and William Streets, and
Coles site, Pacific Highway shops and Pacific Highway shops adjoining Rohini
Street are out of scale and excessive. 5 storey units do not provide housing
choice, which is needed. These
centres already provide for our daily needs. We need to plan for a village
atmosphere keeping buildings as low as viable. |
Development
feasibility studies undertaken by Council’s consultant land economists in the
past confirm the submission’s claims that development in the commercial areas
is unlikely to be feasible under the draft LEP as items or within a HCA.
Consequently, the proposed plan as exhibited will see very little change or
redevelopment in Turramurra in the commercial areas. |
No action recommended. |
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Turramurra
- Heritage |
Some
sites of heritage significance not proposed to be listed. |
Those
places which have undergone a heritage assessment and have been found to have
cultural significance have been included in the LEP. Not all places that have
significance have been assessed. Heritage is a long term commitment of
Ku-ring-gai Council, who will continue to identify, assess and protect
Ku-ring-gai’s heritage. |
No action recommended. |
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Turramurra
-Heritage |
Indigenous
cultural heritage was destroyed many years ago. The only non-indigenous
cultural heritage in Turramurra is the beautiful houses being destroyed by
the ugly units. |
Council
has responsibility under the Environmental Planning and Assessment Act to
identify and protect indigenous heritage. It has been a request of the
traditional caretakers of this area that Council do not disclose the location
of indigenous heritage in Ku-ring-gai. The plan identifies non indigenous
heritage via items or within HCA’s |
No action recommended. |
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Miscellaneous
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The
submission states that planning for Turramurra should adopt the principles of
“Transition Towns” whereby the local centres become self-contained community
areas. |
Many
of the ideas outlined are beyond the scope of an LEP and apply to the long
term place management of centres. |
No action recommended. |
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Retail
viability – |
Key
stakeholder meeting noted that any plan should seek to establish a sense of
place for each retail centre, and develop a strategy to ensure future
viability and sustainability. Unless the area around the |
Noted. Enhancement
works by Council to the public areas of Turramurra will be funded by
development contributions. The level of funding therefore depends on the
level of development in Turramurra. Council’s vision for Turramurra is set
out in the |
No action recommended. |
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Infrastructure
- general |
Need
for health services, water, electricity, sewage, trains, main road traffic
and open space. |
Most
listed matters are state-provided infrastructure - with the exception of open
space. |
No
action recommended. |
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Traffic
- |
With
the inclusion of the new park it is critical that |
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No
action recommended. |
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Traffic
- general |
No
actions are identified to correct existing congestion, which will get worse
with increased density – especially |
Traffic improvement measures are proposed along |
No action
recommended. |
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Parking
- |
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There
is no proposal to change parking arrangements in the |
No
action recommended. |
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Traffic
and parking - general |
The
level of development proposed in the area is excessive - the roads are
already choked and the trains are full. |
Traffic improvement measures are proposed along |
No action
recommended. |
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Traffic
and parking - general |
We
already can’t find parking in the street, and the loss of the car park would
make parking impossible, especially when the church has functions. |
There
is no proposal to change parking arrangements in the |
No
action recommended. |
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Traffic
- |
A
dedicated left turn lane is essential for the |
Traffic improvement measures are proposed at the
intersection of |
No action
recommended. |
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Traffic
– |
The
plans do not show plans to relieve congestion – specifically intersections:
Kissing Point Road/Pacific Hwy and |
It
is not the LEP that illustrates infrastructure; that appears in the DCP and
Contributions Plan. The current Contributions Plan provides for c.$9M
in signals, intersection upgrades, road modifications and two small link road
for Turramurra including both intersections mentioned being part of a total
of $23M+ public domain works for Turramurra. In this context, however, and
following an assessment of the economic viability of development potential
for Turramurra, it may be that not all such works can be funded – or will be
triggered by the volume of development. Council will continue to monitor and
manage the implementation of the works programme of the Development
Contributions Plan in conjunction with development monitoring. |
No action
recommended. |
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Traffic
– |
Support
for the Friends of Turramurra submission. In addition would like: 1.
traffic sorted out at corner 2.
a pedestrian walkway over the highway for people coming to and from the
station. |
Traffic improvement measures are proposed at the
intersection of There is no proposal for overhead walkways over |
No action
recommended. |
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Traffic
- |
How
does the draft LEP intend to handle the increase in traffic flow from |
The
traffic signals at the intersection of |
No
action recommended. |
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Traffic
- |
Tidal
flow on |
Council
has a proposal for widening Council
will continue to lobby NSW and federal government for key transport
infrastructure upgrades for Ku-ring-gai. |
No action
recommended. |
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Traffic
- general |
Turramurra
suffers from huge increase in traffic, and no additional commuter parking in
last 20yrs. Increases
will be disastrous without cooperation from State Rail, RMS and Council to
improve parking, traffic flow and access for residents, including pedestrians
and cyclists. |
Commuter
parking is the responsibility of Transport for NSW, however additional residential
development close to the rail centres is unlikely to increase commuter
parking demand to date. NSW government has recently announced the provision
of additional commuter parking in Lindfield and Gordon. The
Ku-ring-gai Integrated Transport Strategy (ITS) acknowledges that the
planning for arterial roads and public transport (rail and bus) lies with the
NSW Government, and therefore cannot be addressed directly by Council. In
relation to key transport infrastructure, Council’s needs are articulated to
higher levels of government and transport providers through the ITS. The
NSW Government is preparing to release the draft NSW Long Term Transport
Masterplan, which seeks to coordinate and integrate across all modes of
transport to create a coordinated transport plan for NSW. |
No action
recommended. |
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Car
Parking – Council car parks |
Submission
expresses concern about the Ray/William Street Carparks – if they were
developed, where do residents park their cars to go to the |
Public
car parking numbers would be maintained at the Ray/William Street Car parks
if the site is ever redeveloped. There
may be future scope to consider the delivery of improved car parking in
conjunction with new multi-purpose community facilities and integrated with
adjoining development but even conceptual design cannot occur under the
present community classification. Uniting
Church visitors could use the |
No
action recommended. |
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Commuter
car parking – |
Proposal
to rezone council car park at Turramurra Library will result in loss of
commuter parking, and no alternative location is proposed. Commuter parking
should be left as is and increased, given additional dwellings proposed.
Adequate commuter parking needs to be provided for Turramurra Station. |
The
new zone will not have any direct implications on the current parking
provision. Proposals for the Council car park at Turramurra Library will seek
to maintain commuter parking spaces. However, commuter parking is the
responsibility of Transport for NSW, and additional residential development
close to the rail centres is unlikely to increase commuter parking demand. |
No
action recommended. |
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Reclassification
– Council car parks |
Turramurra
Avenue car park, Ray Street car park and community facilities should remains
as community classified public land and not be developed. |
Reclassification
is not part of the exhibited plan. |
No action recommended. |
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Open
space – Council car parks |
Carparks
should be used to provide open space/grassed town square and no 5 storey
development should proceed. |
The
draft LEP shows two locations for proposed new parks: - an area of 2,700sqm on the corner of Duff
Street and Allan Avenue; - an area of 2,600sqm on the corner of
Gilroy Road (as an expansion of Cameron Park). |
No action recommended. |
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Reclassification
– Council car parks |
Reference
is made to the opinion of a James Colman, a planning consultant, who
recommended the inclusion in the draft LEP of a firm commitment that
community land will not be disposed of for private purposes in line with the Local Government Act 1993, that
community land cannot be sold under that Act, and that open space zonings
should not be seen as stand-by housing sites, as this would result in an
irreversible shift to private ownership. |
Reclassification
is not relevant to the exhibited plan. The exhibited plan does not seek to
reclassify any land. |
No action recommended. |
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Reclassification
– |
Reference
is made to the opinion of a James Colman, a planning consultant, who
recommended the inclusion in the draft LEP of a firm commitment that
community land will not be disposed of for private purposes in line with the Local Government Act 1993, that
community land cannot be sold under that Act, and that open space zonings
should not be seen as stand-by housing sites, as this would result in an
irreversible shift to private ownership. |
There
are no heritage items within the subject area. The
croquet lawn and associated cottage are the ‘character’ elements within this
precinct, these elements are proposed to be retained in the future – Refer
Town Centres Public Domain Plan – Turramurra. Reclassification
is not part of the exhibited plan. |
No action recommended. |
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Open
space - general |
Existing
open space (at-grade car parks at Coles, Turramurra Library and 2
and a half of the 4 public spaces are existing public reserves. |
There is no public open
space in Turramurra that is proposed to be lost, other than the proposed
William Street RE1 sites (under the former Town centres LEP) 2010. Council
resolved on 3 April 2011 that commercial
properties Nos 4, 6, 8 and 10 William Street, Turramurra be zoned B2 – Local
Centre and be removed from the Land Reservation Acquisition Map (Local Open Space). It
is now recommended that Council consider these sites to be reserved for Local
Open Space SP2 as this precinct
provides an opportunity for an central civic square, the owners of 1 Ray
street have indicated their desire to fully develop their site- limiting the opportunity for a public civic space.
In addition Council already has commenced the acquisition process with No 4
William Street being (272 sqm) out of
the total of 677 sqm. The
total amount of open space will be increased by over 5,000sqm. |
That
council consider Nos 4, 6, 8 and 10 William Street, Turramurra be zoned
RE1 – Local Centre and 6, 8 and 10
William street, Turramurra be identified on the Land Reservation Acquisition Map (Local Open Space SP2). |
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Open
space |
Protect
public land and open space especially in the heritage sensitive library area
in station precinct (Ray and William Streets) and the Hillview Conservation
Area in response to “over the top” losses of canopy and biodiversity. Link
these through a heritage walk. |
There
is no public open space in Turramurra that is proposed to be lost, other than
the former other than the proposed William Street RE1 land (under the former
Town centres LEP) 2010 (see comments above).
The total amount of open space will be increased by over 5,000sqm. Ray
and William Streets and the library have not been assessed as having heritage
significance. Hillview
is included in draft HCA C40. Interpretive
walks are not the subject of an LEP however Council has already proposed the
idea. Refer Town Centres Public Domain Plan – Turramurra. Council
to look into opportunities for interpretive heritage projects once the draft
LEP has been gazetted. Such projects could include but not be limited to
interpretive walks, plaques and public art. |
No action
recommended. |
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Public
land - general |
Public
land in Turramurra needs to be retained to provide a sense of open space, and
to retain some village ambience. |
The
sale or divestment of public land is not a relevant matter to the draft LEP. |
No
action recommended. |
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Car
parking – Council car parks |
Need
to keep open car parks on |
There
is an opportunity to provide new open space areas with parking underground.
This may further improve the amenity
and character of these areas. |
No action recommended. |
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Public land at |
The
sale or divestment of public land is not a relevant matter to the draft LEP. Before
Council can sell land it is required to go through a public reclassification
process including a public hearing. |
No action recommended. |
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Housing choice - general |
There is a lack of housing choice in
Turramurra with inadequate apartment availability close to the train station
for ease of commuting into the city for work. |
A
key objective of the LEP is to provide for a variety of housing types close
to transport, including shop top housing. Support
for the LEP noted. |
No action recommended. |
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Community
facilities - general |
Community
assets should not be seen as sites to maximise profits for developers.
Improvements to the library and senior services should not have to depend on
developer funding since council must be receiving higher rate revenue from
new dwellings in the area. |
Council
owns many sites within the local centres that can be revitalized, this may
involve some redevelopment. The improved facilities and services will be used
by the local community.Council in
financing any redevelopment plans will use a range of funding sources- including funds from Council rates and
development contribution funds provided by the new development for their
share of the increased demand for facilities and services. |
No action recommended. |
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Development
viability - general |
Retailer
in Turramurra is concerned that Turramurra has little growth planned and the
centre is dying, which is bad for retail. Started losing banks, then post
office and soon Turramurra will be dead. With all the residential units
recently, the centre is not developed to meet the needs of these residents.
Previous plan to connect the 3 areas of Turramurra has been discarded. Please
build a new town centre and make Turramurra more fun to live in. |
The
business owner highlights a concern that is repeated in several of the local
centres along the |
No
action recommended. |
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Development viability -
general |
Object
to the reduction of heights in Turramurra from 8 storey to 5 storeys. This
reduction will not enable successful revitalisation of the Centre which will
continue to deteriorate with limited choice in retail forcing people to spend
their money outside Ku-ring-gai (at Hornsby, Ryde and Thornleigh). Turramurra
needs a better shopping centre that offers choice. Economic feasibility
studies need to be done to justify the reduction of height from 8 to 5 storeys
as 5 storey development is not viable and effectively prevents redevelopment.
This means revitalization and upgrades through s94 contributions, including
parking, shops, parks will not occur. Pedestrian
through traffic is minimal in Turramurra as businesses and facilities like
post office and variety of banks move out and make way for cheap shops. This
business owner is seeing an ongoing decline in his trade. There is little
reason for people to walk around this town centre. The upgrading of footpaths
and facilities needs to come out of s94 contributions, but if the height is
reduced it is unlikely these contributions will amount to any significant or
meaningful changes for the community. Councillors need to be aware of the tired
and rundown Turramurra they are perpetuating by reducing development in
Turramurra. If there are no reports to back their decision then the 8 storey
should be reinstated. |
The
issues raised in these submissions are noted. This
submission confirms the voting patterns from the preliminary consultation
undertaken by Council. Development
feasibility studies undertaken by Council between 2005 and 2009 confirm that
the draft LEP will not be viable development on all the commercial properties
within Turramurra Local Centre. Refer to recommendations on specific sites
within this table. The
writer is correct in that priority for expenditure of contributions is
triggered by causal and geographic nexus. Limited development in Turramurra
will mean that cash-flow may not be sufficient to fund all the presently
proposed public domain improvements. Refer to recommendations on specific sites within
this table. |
No
action recommended. |
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Development
viability - general |
Objects
to reduction of building heights in Turramurra town centre from 8 storeys to
5 storeys. Submission
claims that redevelopment will not be feasible. Request
Council amend draft LEP to provide building heights of 8 storeys and FSR of
3.0:1. |
The
issues raised in these submissions are noted. Development
feasibility studies undertaken by Council between 2005 and 2009 confirm that
the draft LEP will not be viable development on all the commercial properties
within Turramurra Local Centre. Refer to recommendations on specific sites
within this table. |
No
action recommended. |
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Development
viability - general |
Plan
proposes to discourage change by lowering building heights from 8 to 5
storeys and reducing FSRs. Please encourage property owners to build me a
better shopping centre, with new car parks like Asquith, or indoor centres
that avoid walking along the highway, housing close to rail so I can walk to
shops, restaurants and station, and a nice park where I can sit and eat lunch
in the sun (rather than my car). I am embarrassed to bring friends here to
this old and rundown area – and where would we meet – a deserted park near
the railway station? A coffee shop next to highway traffic? If planning for
30 years – plan for young people. |
The
issues raised in these submissions are noted. This
submission confirms the voting patterns from the preliminary consultation
undertaken by Council. Development
feasibility studies undertaken by Council between 2005 and 2009 confirm that
the draft LEP will not be viable development on all the commercial properties
within Turramurra Local Centre. Refer to recommendations on specific sites
within this table. |
No
action recommended. |
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Development
viability - general |
The
LEP is not consistent with S117 directions or the key directions in the North
Subregion draft Subregional Strategy as it will not lead to the
revitalisation of the Turramurra centre. Council
is too focused on the 10,000 dwelling target rather then the redevelopment of
key sites close to the railway station. Turramurra
is losing shoppers to centres outside the LGA because of the degraded centre.
The controls in the LEP won’t promote the upgrading of the centres as they
are unviable. |
The
Planning Proposal accompanying the draft LEP indentifies areas of
inconsistency with section 117 directions. The Director General of the
Department of Planning and Infrastructure has determined that the inconsistencies
with these directions have been sufficiently justified to enable public
exhibition. However, Council is also required to give detailed consideration
to submissions and the details of the viability of future development. The
issues raised in these submissions are noted. This
submission confirms the voting patterns from the preliminary consultation
undertaken by Council. Development
feasibility studies undertaken by Council between 2005 and 2009 confirm that
the draft LEP will not be viable development on all the commercial properties
within Turramurra Local Centre. Refer to recommendations on specific sites
within this table. |
No
action recommended. |
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Dwelling
yields - general |
All
proposed dwellings to be counted to ensure that there is no breaching of the
10,000 limit. As council has until 2031 to approve the remaining 4000
dwellings there appears to be no reason to expedite any further approvals in
the near future. Previously approved dwellings should be completed first. |
The
draft Local Environmental Plan provides capacity for less than 10,000
dwellings and the supporting DCP will provide design guidelines. It must be remembered that an LEP cannot
legislate a certain number of dwellings or dwelling mix on each site which
would be the only way of guaranteeing an exact number. Council
has no control over when an applicant can lodge a DA for the redevelopment of
a site and is bound to accept lodgement. Once the DA is lodged, there is a
time set by the legislation in which Council must determine the DA. Ku-ring-gai Council will continue to
determine development applications on their merits and defend refusals of
inappropriate development in the Land and |
No action recommended. |
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Dwelling
yields |
All
potential dwellings on the There
should be no increase to the exhibited floor space ratio, as that would add
to the bulk of development. |
Yield
calculations in the case of the commercial properties on the highway include
a take-up rate of 50%, these areas are necessarily discounted due to long,
narrow blocks and fragmented ownership patterns rendering the likelihood of
achieving a consolidated site of sufficient size to effect underground
car-parking, of limited probability. Where
Council owns land within the local centres and that land is classified
community this means it can not be sold or long term leased. There is
currently no process underway which would see some or all of the Council land
in Turramurra reclassified. The decision was therefore made to exclude these
lands from yield calculations. |
No action recommended. |
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Development
Viability - general |
Turramurra
FSRs do not provide any incentive for redevelopment to clean up the facades
and reinvigorate the highway. One
owner has a site of 628m2 with an FSR of 2.5:1 and 5 storeys. He
is better off doing nothing. When you have a site worth $7M (based on rent
and market appraisal) and the total gross sales under the Centres LEP is
$12M, it will never happen. |
The
issues raised in this submission are noted. Development
feasibility studies undertaken by Council between 2005 and 2009 confirm that
the draft LEP will not be viable development on all the commercial properties
within Turramurra Local Centre. Refer to recommendations on specific sites
within this table. |
No
action recommended. |
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Under-development |
Submission
requests that building of new shops should be encouraged in Turramurra like
in other centres. Examples provided
are St Leonards, Castle Hill, Macquarie Centre and Thornleigh Marketplace. |
Other
parts of the centre are zoned for 5 storeys; however, development feasibility
studies undertaken by Council’s consultant land economist in the past
indicated that development in the commercial areas is unlikely to be feasible
under the draft LEP. Consequently, the proposed plan will see very little
change in Turramurra in the commercial areas. Refer to recommendations on
specific sites within this table. |
No
action recommended. |
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Development
viability - general |
No
evidence in Planning Proposal that 5 storeys or less is not viable. Options
for 3-5 storeys were shown as viable for Turramurra in community workshops. |
Development
feasibility studies undertaken by Council’s consultant land economist in the
past confirm that development in the commercial areas is unlikely to be
feasible under the draft LEP. Refer to recommendations on specific sites
within this table. |
No
action recommended. |
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Over-development |
Retail
provision in Turramurra provides more expansion than is needed, needs to be
scaled back. |
Other
parts of the centre are zoned for 5 storeys; however, development feasibility
studies undertaken by Council’s consultant land economist in the past
indicated that development in the commercial areas is unlikely to be feasible
under the draft LEP. Consequently, the proposed plan will see very little
change in Turramurra in the commercial areas. Refer to recommendations on
specific sites within this table. |
No
action recommended. |
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Biodiversity
- |
There
are significant Blue Gum High Forest populations between the corners of |
These
trees are identified on the biodiversity overlay, and any redevelopment of
these or adjoining sites will need to be designed and located to address the
matters of consideration listed in clause 6.5 of the LEP. |
No action recommended. |
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Traffic
– |
No
mention or allowance on plans for road connecting If
not, is high rise expected to be built right to boundary of |
Noted
- the road connecting |
No action recommended. |
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Building
height - Hillview precinct |
The
proposed height for the Hillview precinct is unnecessary and excessive. |
A 2
storey height is proposed in the exhibited draft LEP, which is the height of
dwelling houses in an R2 zoning. The
proposed height is recommended for change, this is discussed below. |
Refer
to the recommendation below. |
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Section
117 Inconsistency – Hillview Estate |
Submission
from Office of Strategic Lands - Department of Planning and Infrastructure. Submission
objects to the proposed down-zoning of subject site from Residential 2(d) to
R2 Low Density Residential. Requests
that the site be zoned R4 with an FSR of 0.8:1 as per the now invalid Town
Centres LEP 2010. Submission
states “there is...no strategic justification for the proposed R2 zone given
the site’s location in central Turramurra and located some 50 metres from
Turramurra train station”. The
site is currently zoned Residential 2(d) under the KPSO with an FSR of 1.3:1
and a height limit of 3 storeys. The
proposed R2 zoning is a down zoning and is not justifiable on planning
grounds. The
site was subject to a rezoning process in 1998. The current zoning represents
a result of a comprehensive planning approach to the site including technical
studies and community consultation. The down zoning contradicts the findings
of the previous process. The
current zoning is consistent with the objects of the EP&A Act, namely-
‘to encourage the promotion and coordination of the orderly and economic use
of the land’. The current zoning will enable redevelopment that will achieve a
good planning outcome for the stakeholders. |
The
site is currently zoned under the KPSO residential 2(d) with an FSR of 0.85:1
and height of 3 storeys. The
proposed R2 zone for the subject site was put in place to ensure protection of
the cultural significance of the site in addition to the listing of the
individual Items in Schedule 5 of the draft LEP. However
at the OMC 3rd April 2012 Council resolved to add a further layer
of protection in the form of HCA C40
across the site and adjoining properties. In
light of the current level of protection proposed for the site i.e. HCA +
Items the Submission’s objection to the proposed down zoning appears valid.
Down zoning the land and adding two layers of heritage overly burdens the
site and without some development potential on the site there will be very
little incentive for land owners to maintain and restore the Items. Appropriate
zoning should endeavour to achieve a planning outcome that is both reflective
of the need for the orderly and economic use of land and the conservation its
heritage value. It
is therefore recommended that the zone, site FSR and building height be
increased to R4 zone FSR of 0.8:1 and 5 storey maximum height |
That
property |
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Properties:
1356, 1358 and 1360 Pacific Highway Turramurra |
Redevelopment
will not be viable under draft LEP provisions. Concern
expressed about reduction in FSR from 1.0:1 when compared to the Town Centres
LEP 2010 which proposed an FSR of 2.0:1. Redevelopment
not economically viable. Recommend
floor space ratio of 2.0:1. |
Town
Centres LEP 2010 found invalid by the Land and Council’s
strategy for much of Turramurra is to translate the KPSO provisions of the
commercial zones i.e. 3(a)-(A2). This strategy has been applied uniformly to
all commercial properties in Turramurra, except for the two key sites on This
Strategy was supported by Council’s community consultation process. Development
feasibility studies undertaken by Council’s consultant land economists in the
past confirm the submission’s claims that development in the commercial areas
is unlikely to be feasible under the draft LEP. |
No
action recommended. |
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Heritage
– Hillview and no.1362 |
Supports
Hillview precinct HCA, but should also include |
The
boundary of HCA C40 is as per Council ‘s resolution at the Ordinary meeting
of 3 April 2012. Any review of HCAs outside of those areas already included
in the heritage peer review will occur after the LEP gazettal and changes will
take the form of an LEP amendment. |
No action recommended. |
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Heritage
– Hillview and surrounds |
All
buildings fronting the highway, including the old chemist shop, the old
Westpac building, the stables Camphor laurels, old county road and Hillview
itself should be included in an HCA. Restoration of the chemist shop would
boost this as a health precinct. |
See
comments above. In
future, Council will reconsider making available the Heritage Incentive Fund
which could assist in funding, maintenance and conservation projects. |
No action recommended. |
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Heritage
- Turramurra Library |
Should
be considered for heritage listing as it is one of the few remaining examples
of late 20th century regional ( |
Turramurra
Library has not been assessed for its heritage significance. Correspondence
from the Heritage Council, as per the s.56 consultation, notes that items
that have not been the subject of a heritage assessment should not be
included in schedule 5. It
is recommended that Council take a strategic approach to future heritage
listing which would involve an LGA wide heritage review. The review could
include those places previously recommended for listing but which do not
possess a thorough independent heritage assessment, and those places not
previously identified but now nominated by the community. |
No amendment
recommended. |
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|
Should
be considered for heritage listing, but should be preserved and retain R2
zoning if not recommended for listing. |
See
above. |
No
action recommended. |
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Open
space – proposed Cameron Park extension |
The
extension of Cameron Park is supported. Would like to see toilets included. Request
attention to pedestrian safety in |
Support
noted. The survey of local people for input into the desired facilities and
features is now complete and a design is under draft. This comment should be
noted in conjunction with the survey results for Cameron Park. |
No action
recommended. |
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Open
space – new park on |
Council
has acquired |
The
park is of sufficient size to retain large areas with access to sunlight when
and if the construction of residential flat building occurs to the north. |
No
action recommended. |
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Heritage
- |
5 storey development at this location will
destroy the village character of Turramurra, particularly as the properties
are part of the heritage significant Gilroy Estate and their development will
not conserve |
The
subject site was zoned 2(d3) in 2004 under LEP 194. The
draft LEP proposes to translate of the existing 2(d3) zoning to R4 which is
consistent with the s 117 Directions. There
is insufficient justification to request a variation to the Section 117
requirements i.e. a down zoning. |
No
action recommended. |
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Proposed
Open Space - |
Poorly
placed site for a park – steep slope. Better to have it located on top of the
ridgeline. |
In
principle parks are generally best located on flat land however in the case
of the western side of Turramurra there is very little flat land available
except next to the Pacific Highway which is also not a good location for an
new park While
the location is sloping it does not preclude the use for open space. Using
terraces the park can easily be designed with flat areas. Sloping sites can also offer more
opportunity for adventure play for children. |
No
action recommended. |
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Land
use zones – Land use zones – 19 and |
Submission
on behalf of one owner. Rezoning
these sites from 2(c2) to E4 is inconsistent with s117 -3.1 -5(b) as it
reduces the permissible residential density of the land. The main
justification given for this is a claim that the land includes dense stands
of threatened ecological communities.
This is inaccurate and misleading: · Proposed increase in minimum lot size does not
reflect existing size of properties – about 890m2. It serves no
useful purpose; · The threatened ecological communities are not spread
uniformly across them or even on the undeveloped portions – they are
clustered towards their rear end in the valley running off the highway; · Existing and future development would likely occur
adjacent to or over existing footprints, away from these ecological
communities; · Given long narrow shape of the properties and
location of existing development it is unlikely that the E4 zoning would
provide any further enhancement than the R2 zone; · R2 would not result in a broader range of uses, as
claimed; and · Bushfire is not a constraint, as claimed, as these
lands are only in a buffer zone to a small isolated risk area: o Works are already underway to subdivide 19 and 21
from 2 to 3 lots (DA0874/06 and MOD0129/11) o The consultant’s bushfire assessment (copy provided)
for the site state that the site does not contain bushfire prone vegetation
and that the Bushfire prone lands map should be modified accordingly. |
The
Planning Proposal accompanying the draft LEP indentifies areas of
inconsistency with section 117 directions. The Director General of the
Department of Planning and Infrastructure has determined that the
inconsistencies with these directions have been sufficiently justified to
enable public exhibition. However, Council is also required to give detailed
consideration to submissions. In
practical terms there is no inconsistency with the s117 directions: · As acknowledged by the objector, the minimum
subdivision size will have no impact on this site · The FSR for the new sites as approved by the
subdivision will be the same as for R2 sites. The sites do contain a threatened ecological
community and form part of a link between the vegetated areas in the The E4 zone, while still providing for residential
development, includes specific objectives in relation to the protection of
the ecological values of the site, which will support the protection of these
areas. While the applicant may not
currently be seeking to develop the sites for non dwelling uses, the range of
uses permitted under E4 are more restrictive than R2, to support these
objectives over the long term. |
No
action recommended. |
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Land
use zones – 19 and |
This
portion of |
These
sites contain areas of Blue Gum High Forest, a threatened ecological
community. Townhouse development results in quite extensive site coverage,
inconsistent with limiting building footprint size to protect this community.
The site is part of a link in the vegetation community from the |
No
action recommended. |
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Biodiversity – |
Draft
Centres LEP has not given same consideration as LEP 212 did in its rezoning
of land for multi-unit development where it took into account the impacts of
zoning on BGHF. Rezoning should be restricted to |
Property:
|
No
action recommended. |
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Building
height- 1440-1444 Pacific Highway |
7
storey residential is too out of character for the area. It will result in
overshadowing on the western side of the ridge- resulting in health issues
associated with dampness e.g. asthma, and devaluing these properties. Driving
along the highway 3 or 4 storey development sits best. |
The
proposed 7 storey (23.5m) residential development in Turramurra is at the
corner of the The
DA was approved with the 5 storey controls in place and the maximum height
could be amended accordingly. There
is no longer any planning reason for these sites to have a maximum building
height of 23.5 metres, it can be amended to 17.5 metres (5 storeys). |
That
the maximum building height for property 1440, 1444, 1444A Pacific Highway known as 1
Lamond Drive,
Turramurra be amended to 17.5 metres. |
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Building
height- 1440-1444, |
7
storeys is too high for the western side of the highway. It will cast shadows
and overlook homes and gardens for a large part of the day, and reduce their
property values. It also contains Blue Gum High Forest. No-one has thought
about those disadvantaged -3 storeys is high enough. |
The
proposed 7 storey (23.5m) residential development in Turramurra is at the
corner of the The
DA was approved with the 5 storey controls in place and the maximum height
could be amended accordingly. There
is no longer any planning reason for these sites to have a maximum building
height of 23.5 metres |
Recommendation: See
above |
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LEP
matters –1444B-1456A |
There
are 2 sets of planning controls for the one site. No precedent exists in NSW
to have 2 sets of controls and if gazetted is likely to lead to a challenge in
the Land and The
controls from the previous plan should be reinstated. |
It
is noted that the current LEP provisions are unworkable with height and FSR
controls split across lots. In
order to overcome the complication of splitting FSR and height controls
across a site, the preferred approach is to provide an overall height limit of
23.5 metres (7 storeys) and an FSR of 1.3:1 across the subject sites. This
approach was previously recommended in the Officers Report for OMC 3rd
April 2012 |
That
the maximum FSR for properties 1444B-1456A Pacific Highway, Turramurra be
amended to 1.3:1, the maximum building height to 23.5 metres. |
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Development
feasibility –1444B-1456A |
Submissions
from a number of landowners within this area. Submissions
seek an R4 zone, height of 23.7m (7 storeys) FSR of 1.3:1, a minimum lot size
of 5000m2, and a biodiversity area. Submissions
note that this was the Officer’s recommendation as proposed after rigorous
assessment by Council’s professional officers and which incorporated the
views of the Turramurra community. The
staff proposal of an increased height to 7 storeys allowed reduced building
footprints to encourage protection of the ecologically sensitive areas and to
avoid the steepest parts of the site. The minimum lot size encouraged
amalgamations to allow for the footprints to go in less constrained areas. Submissions
raise concerns over lack of transparency and open processes in decision
making and consultation. Submission
calls upon Councillors to justify their decision at OMC of 3 April
2012 which was to reduce the building heights and FSRs on the subject sites
from 7 storeys to 3/5 storeys and 1.3:1 to 1.3:1/0.85:1. Submission
claims this was done without regard to Council’s economic feasibility
analysis. Other
reasons given for objections · economic viability and loss of value; · site characteristics; · inconsistency with 117 directions; · interface issues; · process issues; · Lost financial costs from DA; · Conflicts with sensible professional staff
recommendations, supporting studies and planning objectives; · Creates an interface conflict of 7 storeys within 6m
of our boundary down to 3 storeys; · Devalues our property (real estate estimate of 30%); · Site already has significant consolidation and
building constraints – biodiversity significance, minimum lot size of 5,000m2; · Have been living with R4 zoning for 8 years,
attempts to change zoning, under option 3 times by developers who could not
get DAs approved due to onerous restrictions and Council attitude; · Unwilling to carry out improvements when development
could occur at any time; · Approved DA next door to 5 storey, with demolition
due to start next week – Draft LEP now provides for 7 storeys, while reducing
our property to 3 storeys - far removed from basic planning principles; · Proposed height and FSR and need for consolidation
make redevelopment uneconomical, and with a house that is un-sellable. This
is supported by the feasibility study undertaken for Council in 2009, which
assessed a number of scenarios and concluded that an FSR of 1.3:1 was needed
to provide for redevelopment. Urge council to review this document; and · Request councillors visit site to see the
implications of the proposed down-zoning. |
The
sites are currently zoned under the KPSO 2(d3) with an FSR of 1.3:1 and 17.5
metre building height. Not all the sites have not down zoned, 1446, 1450 and
1452 have maintained the same development standards while the remaining sites
are proposed to be down zoned over between half and all the site area. The
Planning Proposal accompanying the draft LEP indentifies areas of
inconsistency with section 117 directions. The Director General of the
Department of Planning and Infrastructure has determined that the
inconsistencies with these directions have been sufficiently justified to
enable public exhibition. However, Council is also required to give detailed
consideration to submissions and the details of the viability of future
development. Council’s
consultant Jones Lang LaSalle (JLL) has undertaken a review of the draft LEP
provisions to determine whether the claims regarding financial feasibility
are correct. JLL has assessed the viability of 3-5 storey apartment buildings
with an FSR of 1.0:1 across the subject site and has determined that it is viable under current market
conditions and therefore it is likely to be redeveloped. There
are other matters to consider on this site: · the exhibited draft LEP provisions are unworkable
with height and FSR controls split across lots. · There is a current DA over a section of the subject
site for a development of 5 storeys and FSR of 1.3:1 · The proposed down-zoning of the properties 3-15
Lamond Ave is under review in this report with a recommendation to return to
the Officers recommendation of the 3rd April 2012 · The uncertainty suffered by residents over the last
5-6 years In
light of the above it is recommended that the building height and FSR on the
subject sites be amended as per the Officers
recommendations for OMC 3rd April 2012 |
That
the maximum FSR for properties 1444B-1456A Pacific Highway, Turramurra be
amended to 1.3:1, the maximum building height to 23.5 metres. Recommendation: amend draft LEP in relation to property - minimum lot size 5,000sqm - FSR 0.85:1 - building height 11.5 metres |
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Development
feasibility –1444B-1456A |
Request
Council take into consideration the review comments from DA0605/11 for 1444B 1446A, 1448, 1450, 1452 and |
This DA was lodged under the Ku-ring-gai
Planning Scheme Ordinance and is currently being assessed. The assessment
includes design issues specific to the proposal as well as issues common to
this precinct, such as the protection of biodiversity and dealing with the
topography of the site. Issues common to the precinct are considered in the
recommendations for the draft LEP. |
Refer
to site specific recommendations above. |
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Development
feasibility –1444B-1456A |
As
resident owners of Believe
the current lower density of 1444B-1454 Pacific Highway Turramurra is
intended to thwart redevelopment. We are 92 and need to move into assisted
living and need Council to stop the negative strategies that have led to
emotional and financial distress. Emotional
and financial distress from lack of certainty and lost development potential.
Request that Council stop opposing proposed development of land. |
As
discussed elsewhere in this report, it is proposed that the model local
clause 1.8A Savings provision relating to development applications be included in the LEP. This
clause will allow existing undetermined DAs to be considered under the
planning instrument in place when the application was lodged. However, it will also allow the new LEP to
be given consideration in accordance with section 79C of the EP&A Act.
This will provide more certainty to applicants while also ensuring the new instrument
is considered in the assessment of applications. |
That
the model local clause 1.8A Savings provision relating to
development applications be
included in the LEP. |
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Land
use zones - |
The
block between LEP194
sites between Lamond Dr and |
These properties
have been zoned 2(d3) since 2004. Residential flat buildings have been, or are currently being,
constructed at 2-4 Finlay Rd, 1-3 Duff St and at 1440, 1444, 1444A Pacific
Highway and 1 Lamond Drive. These developments
were approved on the basis that the adjoining land would also be redeveloped
for high density development. On this basis many of the dwellings and the
bushland areas have been allowed to degrade. Down-zoning the
other sites in the precinct would result in the continuing of adverse amenity
impacts on the adjacent low density
dwellings. A minimum lot size of 5,000 sqm has
been set for the north-western sites in the precinct to ensure that building
footprints can be provided in the least environmentally sensitive locations,
allowing the denser steep areas of This will also encourage
new development to be well setback from the boundaries with the sites
proposed as E4 Environmental Living, minimising
potential interface impacts. |
No
action recommended. |
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Development
viability – |
Existing
zoning should be maintained. Object to 3 storey height reduction. Existing
buildings include 3.5 story buildings and there is no confirmation that 3
storey buildings will be economically viable. The proposal will result in economic loss
for current owners of property, and make selling of properties difficult and
relocation into other residential properties unaffordable. |
Council’s
consultant Jones Lang LaSalle (JLL) has undertaken a review of the submission
to determine whether the claims regarding financial feasibility are correct.
JLL has assessed the viability of 3 storey apartment buildings with an FSR of
0.85:1 on the subject sites and has determined that it is not viable under current market
conditions. Further
analysis by JLL has determined that an FSR of 1.3:1 is required on the subject
sites to achieve viable
development under current market conditions. Given
the uncertainty faced by residents over the last 5-6 years it is recommended
that the development provisions recommended in the Officers Report to the OMC
3rd April 2012 be re-instated, minimum lot size 5,000sqm, FSR
1.3:1 and 23.5 metres height |
That
the FSR of property |
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Development
viability - 5, 7, 9, 11 and |
Submission
prepared by owners of 5, 7, 9, 11 and Submission
objects to the reduction in building height proposed in the draft LEP to 11.5
metres (compared to 17.5 metres under LEP 194). Submission
objects to the reduction in FSR proposed in the draft LEP to 0.85:1 (compared
to 1.3:1 under LEP 194). Reasons
for objection: - development viability - existing houses higher than 11.5 metres - adequate lot depth - existing buildings and driveways have
large footprints - adjoining 6 storey developments Submission
requests the draft LEP be amended to show these subject sites with the
following provisions: - minimum lot size 5,000sqm - FSR 1.3:1 - Building height 23.5 metres |
Further
analysis by JLL has determined that an FSR of 1.3:1 is required on the
subject sites to achieve not viable
development under current market conditions. Further
analysis by JLL has determined that an FSR of 1.3:1 is required on the
subject sites to achieve viable
development under current market conditions. Given
the uncertainty faced by residents over the last 5-6 years it is recommended
that the development provisions recommended in the Officers Report to the OMC
3rd April 2012 be re-instated |
That
the FSR of property |
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Development
viability – |
Reduction of height will not enable any
street presence. If 3 storeys is to be maintained the site would require fill
to enable buildings to have a street presence. This would have the same
impact as a taller building on sites further down the slope. |
The
proposed maximum building height for these properties is proposed to be
increased to 7 storeys. Refer discussion above |
No
action recommended. |
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Riparian
lands – 14 Denman Parade Turramurra |
The
riparian mapping should reflect Category 3a for the lower reach on this site
and not be included for the ‘upper reach’ which is only fed by stormwater
outlets and has no real channel definition: · Department of Lands topographic map (assume
reference to 1:2500) does not identify a watercourse; · Poorly defined channel form · Significant channel modification (physical and
ecological); · If the degraded ecological function were considered,
as recommended by the Sydney CMA, the water course would be considered
category 3a; · Category 3a riparian lands more appropriate for most
of the site; · The categorisation will prevent subdivision of the
site, which would be needed to fund restoration; · The riparian categories do not consider ecosystem
function of the riparian lands appropriately; and · Comparison with other reaches in the area indicates
that a watercourse is not present on the subject site and the mapping should
be amended. · This watercourse is compared to one running down
Duff Street, which is Category 3a. It is considered that the Duff Street watercourse
is not a watercourse at all. |
If
a watercourse is not identified on the topographic map that does not mean it
is not a watercourse. A
site inspection was undertaken to confirm mapping in relation to the site: · Definite valley/gully form present on site which has
undergone significant channel modification; · The majority the channels remain in a more natural
state (limited concrete, brick lining) with within channel, extensive bank
and riparian vegetation present (although degraded by weeds); · There is no evidence of significant piping or
culverts to indicate that the category 3a classification is more appropriate; · Fluvial features appear present along all sections
of the site; · The objector’s consultant has described the
watercourse as follows: o “the drainage line onsite is has a well defined
watercourse albeit in a highly modified state, which carries surface runoff
after a rainfall event has ceased and is fed by 2 upper stormwater discharges
and 3 surface run off diversion channel. There was also evidence of
groundwater seepage feeding the lower reach on site.”; and o also identified a frog that lives in the water on
site. The consultant’s description fits a category 3
watercourse. This is also consistent with Office of Water guidelines, as
acknowledged by the consultant. · Identification of Riparian zones to stormwater
outlets present within the drainage line depression is a consistent
characteristic of the mapping across the LGA. Flow paths and channels have
been observed on site and as such the land should be considered as riparian
land; · The degraded extent of the watercourse is the reason
that the reach is category 3 rather than category 2; · The identification of the riparian lands as category
3 does not of itself, prohibit any form of development. The map relates to
riparian provisions which outline matters of consideration for development on
these sites. Final appropriate buffers are considered through the development
application process; · The DCP will provide guidance for determining the
most appropriate identification of channel location and width, and the
appropriate setbacks to any development; · The DCP will also outline the most appropriate
management objectives for each of the categories and how the ecological
processes and ecosystem function of riparian zones should be considered. This
will be based on the riparian policy objectives developed in co-operation
with the Department of Infrastructure, Planning and Natural resources in 2004; · It is not clear how the comparison of other
watercourses in adjacent and downstream areas provide evidence that the
subject site should not be mapped as category 3 riparian lands; and · The nearby reach (from Duff Street to Denman Street)
has been identified according to the contours, vegetation and presence of an
easement to drain water on 2 Holms Street (at the corner of Holms and Denman)
which appears to be connected to the subject drainage line. The reach was
categorised as category 3 in the 2004 mapping and has already been revised to
a category 3a reach, recognising that significant drainage alteration is
likely to have occurred in its contributing catchment. Due to the age of
development in this area it is unclear how this change may have occurred and
further investigation may be needed to be undertaken at the development
application stage. The
mapping is in line with the rest of the mapping across the LGA, any site
specific issues will be considered at the development assessment stage. |
No action
recommended. |
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Biodiversity
– 14 Denman Parade |
The
biodiversity mapping should reflect the low biodiversity occurring over 80%
of the site. · The review should map only Blue Gum High Forest
occurring near the northern boundary; and several constituent BGHF trees on
the southern watercourse alignment near Denman Street. Where
site inspections are conducted to review the mapping, any future DA
assessment will rely on the results of that inspection, so it needs to be
accurate to the site scale. |
As a result of the submission to the draft
biodiversity, riparian and heritage LEP, a minor change was already
incorporated to the biodiversity mapping in the local centres LEP. The
biodiversity mapping is not limited only to the BGHF on the site. It includes
vegetation located within a Category 3 riparian area, providing connectivity and
some foraging and potentially habitat for species that use these moister
areas. While the consultant disputes the habitat connectivity, it is clear
that the BGHF at the rear of the lot is connected through the riparian area
and is connected to a very large area of BGHF uphill, and through to Granny
Springs Reserve. Even the exotic
species along the creek provide some linkage for species that use riparian
areas, and it is for this reason that these areas are consistently identified
as part of the biodiversity mapping process. As the consultant admits,
consistency is critical. The biodiversity mapping has been done for strategic
purposes, at a scale of 1:2000. It will not substitute for a detailed flora
and fauna assessment at DA stage. Rather, it is a trigger for the
consideration of certain matters. No further change is required to the
mapping. No change is recommended to this part of the biodiversity mapping. It
should also be noted that part of the biodiversity map on this site includes
the buffer area (identified as category 4 in the background study). The
considerations in this area will not be as limiting as those where canopy is
present. The different requirements for the different categories will be
outlined in the DCP. |
No
action recommended. |
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Land
use zones – |
Submission
requests that the subject property (as well as The
reasons given for the requested change are: - reduction in FSR from 0.3:1 to 0.2:1 - the properties are not bush fire prone - limitation on additional uses will limit
redevelopment and restoration of BGHF |
These sites contain dense stands of a threatened
ecological community, Blue Gum High Forest. Further, they link the steep Blue
Gum High Forest areas in the The E4 zone, while still providing for residential
development, includes specific objectives in relation to the protection of
the ecological values of the site, which will support the protection of these
areas. The range of uses permitted
under E4 do not include uses that are likely to require large footprints
providing support for these objectives over the long term. Nevertheless, some
redevelopment potential is provided through the inclusion of uses such as bed
and breakfast and secondary dwellings, to provide encouragement for some
restoration of the Blue Gum High Forest in this area. The maximum floor space ratio is subject to both
Clause 4.4(2) and Clause 4.4 (2C). Cl
4.4(2C) provides for higher FSRs on smaller sites on a sliding scale. Large
sites can still support quite substantial development. |
No
action recommended. |
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Land
use zones and building height - |
Submission
prepared on behalf of property owners, Uniting Care Ageing, by planning
consultant. Submission
claims that an R3 zone does not reflect the level of development currently on
the site. Submission
compares the draft LEP to the planning controls for the subject site in the
now invalid Town Centres LEP. Requests
that Council amend the draft LEP to provide the following planning controls
for the subject site: - R4 High Density - 17.5 metres building height - FSR 1.3:1 |
The
submission raises a valid objection. There
has been an error when translating the KPSO provisions. The site is currently
zoned Residential 2(e) which translates to an R4 zone. The draft LEP shows an
R3 zone. In
relation to density and height, the site has clearly developed at a
considerably higher density than allowed under the KPSO. Current building
heights are over 4 storeys at rear of the site. The
draft LEP has allocated LEP provisions to the site consistent with the KPSO
i.e. building height 11.5 metres and FSR 0.5:1. These
provisions do not reflect what is currently built. |
That
the property |
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Building
height - |
A 2
storey zoning of |
Support
for exhibited plan noted. |
No
action recommended. . |
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Building
heights |
5-storey
development of mixed commercial and shop-top housing on the Franklins site,
Ray and William Street car parks, Coles site, Pacific Hwy shops, and Pacific
Hwy shops adjoining Rohini Street is excessive and out of scale. |
While
the land has LEP provisions that allow 5 storey buildings this does not
necessarily mean that such development will inevitably occur As
explained in the Officers report to OMC 3rd April 2012 and
reinforced by further feasibility assessment, this height and the associated
FSR do not represent a viable level that would encourage redevelopment. |
No
action recommended. |
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Land
use zones – William and |
Proposed
5 storey height on entire length of |
The
making of an LEP does not impose any obligation upon Council to dispose of or
redevelop its public facilities, assets or landholdings. How Council deals
with its facilities and assets is governed by the processes of the Local
Government Act. Before Council can
sell land it must be classified operational.
If it is currently classified community then reclassification must
occur through an open and transparent LEP process, including a public
hearing. This draft LEP will not reclassify any land. |
No
action recommended. |
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Land
use zones – William and |
Current
council may have no intention to develop roads, but future ones may. |
Future
Council’s decisions on the management of public assets and land will be
subject to the same transparent and democratic processes as apply to the
current Council. |
No action recommended. |
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Land
use zones – William and |
|
Leaving
a section of road or land off the Height of Buildings Map would not prevent
it from being redeveloped. Rather, it
would mean that future development of that land would have no height
restrictions, which would be undesirable |
No action recommended. |
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Open
Space and community facilities - |
In
Turramurra, adjacent to the Sydney Ancher designed library, the |
The
LEP will not prevent Council from developing a public square or park on the What
the LEP will do is increase the opportunities for how the Council can manage
or use the public facilities and land. |
No action recommended. |
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Building
heights – |
Coles
has said that they don’t want to extend beyond its DA approval, just to be
able to extend parking below the current car park. At
the Turramurra community workshop the Coles representative indicated they had
no intention to develop more than 3 storeys – no need to zone for 5 storeys. |
This
claim is not supported Coles
have made a submission seeking additional height and FSR for the site. See
submission summary and comments below. |
No
action recommended. |
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Development
viability – |
Submission
prepared by land owner. Lack
in planning rationale in the reduction of potential for the site compared to
KLEP 2010. There has been a 28% reduction in FSR and 33% reduction in maximum
height. Site
presents good opportunity to redevelop consistent with the objectives metro
strategy & subregional plan by increasing people living in centres with
access to existing transport infrastructure. Key site characteristic to
support development include: significant size (3600sqm; single ownership;
within 50m of station; good vehicle and pedestrian access; Separation
from sensitive land uses; generally underdeveloped; ability to consolidate
with adjoining council land. Site
should have FSR same as adjoining sites i.e. 2.5:1; height should be same as
previous LEP. LEP
should include provisions to encourage larger consolidated site with higher
FSR & height – as is done in the R4 zone (cl4.4(2B). Similar clauses in
other SI LEPs: Mosman 2012; Auburn
2010; Parramatta 2007; draft Willoughby 2012. |
The
submission is noted. Provisions
in draft LEP do not provide enough incentive for land owners to amalgamate
sites and thereby achieve a good quality development Council’s
consultant Jones Lange LaSalle (JLL) has undertaken a review of the
submission to determine whether the claims regarding financial feasibility
are correct. JLL has assessed the viability of 5 storey mixed use building
with an FSR of 1.8:1 on the subject site and has determined that it is not viable under current market
conditions. The
assessment shows that only a substantial uplift in height and FSR would make
development viable. It can therefore be assumed that the submission’s claim
for 2.5:1 is reasonable and this is consistent with previous development
feasibility studies undertaken by Council’s consultant land economists and
consistent with Officers recommendations to the OMC 3rd April
2012. This
submission confirms the voting patterns from the preliminary consultation
undertaken by Council. Development
feasibility studies undertaken by Council between 2005 and 2009 confirm that
the draft LEP will not be viable development on all the commercial properties
within Turramurra Local Centre. Refer to recommendations on specific sites
within this table. There are also a large number of submissions in
this table from residents who support retail revitalisation and are willing
to accept up to 8 storey buildings in order that change happens In light of the above it is recommended that
the LEP provisions for this site be re-instated as per the Officers
recommendation to the OMC of 3 April 2012. To allow for the future potential of an
integrated redevelopment of the area providing for the full range of
community infrastructure proposed in the Town Centres Public Domain Plan 2010
and the Ku-ring-gai Contributions Plan 2010, and as supported at the
Turramurra Community Summit it is recommended that Council’s land at 5 Ray
Street and 1 Forbes Lane also have the LEP provisions re-instated as per the
Officers recommendation to the OMC of 3 April 2012. |
That
the maximum FSR of properties 1 & |
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Open
space – |
Specific
comments about Turramurra Town Centre. The car park and library on
Ray/William Streets near Coles is currently Council owned land but has been
zoned for 5 storey heights. No open space has been set aside. The Ray Street
car park should remain as Community classified public land and be used to
provide public open space. |
The
draft LEP zones two new areas of open space in Turramurra: - an area of 2,700sqm on the corner of Duff
Street and Allan Avenue; - an area of 2,600sqm on the corner of
Gilroy Road (as an expansion of Cameron Park) |
No
action recommended. |
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Turramurra
– site specific – 26A |
The
property owner requests that his property be zoned R3 as per the now invalid
Town Centres LEP 2010. The owner also requests the adjoining properties to
the north (11, 15, The
submission notes that these properties were previously zoned R3 under the now
invalid Town Centres LEP 2010. The
reasons given are: - heritage - streetscape - restoration of riparian corridors - built form |
The
Land and The
decision to zone this site and the neighbouring sites as R2 is to ensure the
protection of the heritage conservation area and heritage items. A
category 3a riparian area begins at this site, while a biodiversity corridor
is identified for restoration through the site. An R3 zone would result in a much larger
site coverage, which would have the potential to significantly reduce the
opportunity for restoration of the biodiversity corridor. A
principle applied across the LGA is that appropriate interface zoning be
located next to heritage conservation areas to encourage sympathetic
development in the vicinity of the conservation area. The preferred zoning is
R2. It is not recommended to increase the zoning as the loss of amenity, in
addition to the visual impact, would impact on the long term use and
maintenance of places within the conservation area. |
No
action recommended. |
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Heritage
- |
It
is preposterous to try to maintain a streetscape on one side of the street
and ignore it on the other. On the “conservation” side development is
constrained, while on the other side there is a modern house – the only one
in the street. |
Both
sides of |
No
action recommended. |
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Interface
planning – 3 Ku-ring-gai Avenue |
Property
should be up-zoned to R4 or R3 to be consistent with existing R4 and proposed
R3 neighbouring the site. R3 can ameliorate the problems created for this
site and can be designed in sympathy with adjacent properties. It
is affected by overlooking from 5-7 storey apartments on the site adjacent to
the rear boundary. Properties
on the opposite side of the road has been zoned R3 and will have medium
density housing. |
It is acknowledged that
overlooking from the rear apartments is an issue however an opportunity
exists for boundary plantings to ameliorate loss of privacy. The
proposed R3 is across the road and this is not considered to have high
interface impact on The
retention of the R2 zoning is consistent with the properties inclusion in the
draft HCA and to discourage unsympathetic development in the vicinity of the
neighbouring heritage item. |
No
action recommended. |
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Biodiversity
– Stonex Lane/Franklins area |
Request
re-map biodiversity on this site. It is inaccurate as it covers bitumen car
parks and buildings. |
A site assessment shows that
the mapping is accurate as the remnant canopy trees overhang the bitumen car
parks and buildings. Note that the width of the biodiversity map also includes
a buffer to the vegetation. |
No
action recommended. |
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Biodiversity
- Stonex Lane/Franklins area |
The
redevelopment of the |
Clause
6.8 of the draft LEP includes a requirement for water sensitive urban design
to be incorporated into new developments. This will be supplemented with more
detailed provisions in relation to both water quality and quantity in the DCP
to protect downstream ecosystems. |
No action recommended. |
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Biodiversity
- Granny Springs Reserve |
Buffer
or park needed between Franklins and Granny Springs Reserve to protect Blue
Gum High Forest. |
Council’s
draft Local Centres DCP will provide details in relation to the interface
with Granny Springs Reserve. Any
future development would be required to provide a buffer due to bush fire
hazard arising from Granny Springs Reserve. |
No action recommended. |
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Biodiversity |
Request
protection of the Granny Springs Reserve area by providing a buffer park and
a new cantilevered road. |
Council’s
draft Local Centres DCP will provide details in relation to the interface
with Granny Springs Reserve. Any
future development would be required to provide a buffer due to bush fire
hazard arising from Granny Springs Reserve. |
No action recommended. |
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Open
Space - Stonex Lane/Franklins area |
More
land should be set aside in this area for public open space, to protect
Granny Springs reserve from fragmentation. |
The
draft LEP zones two new areas of open space in Turramurra: - an area of 2,700sqm on the corner of Duff
Street and Allan Avenue; - an area of 2,600sqm on the corner of
Gilroy Road (as an expansion of Cameron Park) |
No
action recommended. |
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Biodiversity
-Granny Springs Reserve |
Granny
Springs Reserve is not ‘Open Space’. It should not be portrayed as providing
a recreation/play area, and should be zoned E5. E5 provides a higher level of
protection than E2. |
Granny
Springs Reserve is zoned E2 – Environment Conservation. Permitted development
is very restricted, and prohibits development such as dwellings.
Ku-ring-gai’s use of the E2 zone is very similar to the use of the E5 zone as
proposed by the Department of Planning and Infrastructure. It is also
important to note that there is no E5 zone available at this time as it is
still only a proposed amendment to the Standard Instrument. |
No
action recommended. |
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Development
viability – |
Submission
by land owner. Submission
calls upon Councillors to justify their decision at OMC 3 April 2012 which
was to reduce the building heights on the subject sites from 8 storeys to 5
storeys. Submission
claims this was done without regard to Council’s economic feasibility
analysis. Submission
claims that under the draft LEP there will be no change in Turramurra. |
Staff
concur with submission. Provisions
in draft LEP do not provide enough incentive for land owners to amalgamate
sites and thereby achieve a good quality development. Council’s
consultant Jones Lang LaSalle (JLL) has undertaken a review of the submission
to determine whether the claims regarding financial feasibility are correct. JLL
has assessed the viability of 5 storey mixed use development with an FSR of
2.0:1 on the subject site and has determined that it is not viable under current market conditions. The
assessment shows that only a substantial uplift in height and FSR would make
development viable. It can therefore be assumed that the submission’s claim
is reasonable and this is consistent with advice from previous development
feasibility studies undertaken by Council’s consultant land economists. There are also a large number of submissions in
this table from residents who support retail revitalisation and are willing
to accept up to 8 storey buildings in order that change happens In light of the above it is recommended that
the LEP provisions for this site be increased as per the Officers
Recommendation
to the OMC of 3 April 2012. |
That
the FSR of properties 1364-1396 Pacific Highway & 1A, 1 and 3 Kissing
Point Road, Turramurra (Franklins precinct) be amended to 3.0:1 and the
maximum building height to 26.5 metres. |
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Development
viability – |
Supports
the 8 storeys and 2.5:1 FSR proposed for the precinct by planning staff. This
is consistent with the KLEP 2010 and had 60% support at the community summit.
Councillors’ resolution to reduce to 2.0:1 and 5 storeys is a 33% reduction.
The decision was unfounded and not supported by feasibility assessment. These
controls are not feasible for redevelopment. There
was extensive feasibility undertaken by Hill PDA and Sphere in 2006 and 2008
to justify the KLEP 2010 controls. The
controls will not encourage any development and shop top housing, therefore
no housing choice. If
the higher controls are not reinstated then Council should defer their decision until economic
feasibilities can be undertaken to justify their decision. Multiple
benefits to be gained from redevelopment of the site including: · Improved traffic flows and parking · Incorporation of a usable park off the highway · Improved shopping · Protection of adjoining BGHF. Site
will be easy to amalgamate for redevelopment as the owners are already in
agreement. |
Staff
concur with submission. Provisions
in draft LEP do not provide enough incentive for land owners to amalgamate
sites and thereby achieve a good quality development. Council’s
consultant Jones Lang LaSalle (JLL) has undertaken a review of the submission
to determine whether the claims regarding financial feasibility are correct. JLL
has assessed the viability of 5 storey mixed use development with an FSR of
2.0:1 on the subject site and has determined that it is not viable under current market conditions. The
assessment shows that only a substantial uplift in height and FSR would make
development viable. It can therefore be assumed that the submission’s claim
is reasonable and this is consistent with advice from previous development
feasibility studies undertaken by Council’s consultant land economists There are also a large number of submissions in
this table from residents who support retail revitalisation and are willing
to accept up to 8 storey buildings in order that change happens. In light of the above it is recommended that
the LEP provisions for this site be increased as per the Officers
Recommendation to the OMC of 3 April 2012. and
consistent with Officers recommendations to the OMC 3rd April 2012 |
That
the FSR of properties 1364-1396 Pacific Highway & 1A, 1 and 3 Kissing
Point Road, Turramurra (Franklins precinct) be amended to 3.0:1 and the
maximum building height to 26.5 metres. |
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Building
heights - |
All
areas where 5 storey apartments are proposed to abut low density residential
areas, some with heritage values and beautiful trees/gardens. These should
only be 3 storey maximum. |
There
are no locations on Between
Eastern and Gilroy Roads, the R4 zone breaks down into 2 different maximum heights,
with a 3 storey area between the 5 storey elements and the R2 low density
zone. Between
If an R3 zone were to be established to the north of
this development, the streetscapes further along |
No
action recommended. |
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Land
use zones and building heights – |
Properties
on top half of 5
storey zoning at |
LEP
194 was gazetted in 2004, so the high density residential zoning for the
southern end of There
is no valid planning reason to seek the Minister’s approval for down-zoning
of these sites. These
sites are between 120 and 400m to Turramurra station and even closer to the
shopping centre. The increase in population will help to support the economic
life of Turramurra centre. The built form and design of the future buildings
in relation to their context will be considered at the DA stage. |
No
action recommended. |
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Proposed
road - between |
No
provision for new road in LEP, which has been major concern to many because
of potential impact on Turra Tots Child Care. Was in earlier LEP, so what is
the status of this road? |
The
proposed road does not appear in the draft LEP as exhibited, having been
removed by Council at its OCM of 3 April 2012, although it still features
in Council’s policy documents (including Public Domain plan) and is necessary
for the future traffic management of the area. Council has already acquired
one of the lots for the new road. The
Roads and Maritime Services has highlighted its critical role in improving
connectivity to the proposed new traffic signals at the intersection of |
That the LEP maps be amended to show
SP2 zone apply to |
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Heritage-
|
It
is shown on map, but not on the heritage list. Please correct this. |
The
house has not been assessed for its social significance and was listed based
upon its architectural and cultural significance and the fact at the time of
assessment it was rare for being substantially intact. The
house has undergone a substantial addition to the rear which has more than
doubled the size of the original house. The
Burra Charter states that: New work such as additions
to the place may be acceptable where it does not distort or obscure the
cultural significance of the place, or detract from its interpretation and
appreciation. and
New work should be readily
identifiable as such. To respect the cultural significance
of a heritage place additions should be visually recessive and read as a
secondary element to the heritage place. In addition, materials and
surface finishes used on the addition should be complementary to the original
fabric of the heritage place but should be discernible as new. This is not true of the
addition at |
That
property |
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Heritage
– |
The
properties zoned 5 storeys on the corner of |
Under
the KPSO this site is zoned 2(d3) with a height capability of 5 storeys. The
zoning to R4 with a height of 17.5 is a direct translation of the KPSO. |
No action recommended. |
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Traffic
- |
There
are already traffic and access problems from development in this small narrow
street potentially endangering children who use it as an extended play
area-skateboarding and cycling. · Object to change in zoning to 3 storeys. There
should be no further development in Nulla Nulla Street will result in more
traffic impacts; and · If changed from the zoning at time of purchase,
compensation should apply to our loss of property value. |
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No action recommended. |
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Land
use zones - |
Don’t
like high density, but acknowledge pressures. Would oppose any increase over
the current level of development proposed for this street as it would result
in detrimental impacts on ambience of unique street. |
Support
noted. |
Support
for plan as exhibited No action
recommended. |
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Turramurra
– site specific – 2 & |
Submission
prepared on behalf of property owners by planning consultant. Submit
that the current proposal in the draft LEP does not represent a sensible or
coherent planning outcome for the owners. Argue
that 2 Nulla Nulla (“Levenhulme”) is not worthy as listing as an item of
local heritage. Argue
that 2 and 6 would require amalgamation to create a developable land parcel. Request
the draft LEP be amended as follows: - 2 Nulla Nulla Street be removed from
Schedule 5 – heritage items; - That 2 and 6 be zoned R4 with anFSR of
1.3:1 and a height of 17.5 metres |
Staff
concur with submission. The
house has undergone a substantial addition to the rear which has more than
doubled the size of the original house. The
Burra Charter states that: New work such as additions
to the place may be acceptable where it does not distort or obscure the
cultural significance of the place, or detract from its interpretation and
appreciation. and
New work should be readily
identifiable as such. To respect the cultural significance
of a heritage place additions should be visually recessive and read as a
secondary element to the heritage place. In addition, materials and
surface finishes used on the addition should be complementary to the original
fabric of the heritage place but should be discernible as new. This
is not true of the addition at |
That properties 2 & 6 Nulla Nulla Street,
Turramurra be zoned R4 (High Density Residential), and that the maximum FSR
be amended to 1.3:1 and the maximum building height to 17.5 metres. |
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Heritage
– |
Property
|
It
is agreed that the form, scale and materials used in the extension to |
That
property |
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Land
use zones – 2 and |
Properties
2 and |
It
is agreed that providing for high density on |
That
properties 2 & 6 Nulla Nulla Street, Turramurra be zoned R4 (High Density
Residential), and that the maximum FSR be amended to 1.3:1 and the maximum
building height to 17.5 metres. |
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Land
use zones – 1A |
Property
1A · Site suitable - adjacent to of high density
development under construction – and close to station; · Impacts of change from 2010 plan: o Loss of opportunity – buyers we negotiated with have
left; o Loss of market conditions; and o Delay to 1 owner who needs to move to a more
suitable dwelling as a full time carer; and · R3 reduces viability. |
Public
interest matters identified in discussion below outweigh the desire to
achieve the most efficient building form and the maximum number of dwellings
on the site. The
R3 zoning and associated FSR and height are appropriate in the circumstances.
|
No
action recommended. |
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Land
use zones – 1A Turramurra Avenue Turramurra |
Site
proposed to be down-zoned to R3 medium density, under the draft LEP. It was
zoned R4 under the previous town centres LEP and at that time the owner was
in negotiations with 3 and 5 Turramurra Avenue to amalgamate the sites for
redevelopment for high density. This has now stalled due to the invalidation
of the LEP. Properties
3 and 5 are still proposed to be R4, but due to site size the FSR would be
reduced from 1.3:1 down to 1:1. Submission includes attachment (Scheme A) “to
demonstrate that this zoning [R4 on all 3 sites] will result in a suitable
development outcome. “ Scheme
A (58 units) shows 2 buildings of 4.6 storeys, with very large setback to
adjoining residential at the rear, one 2 storey building, overall FSR of 1.3:1, Deep soil of 56%, 2
communal open space areas- access from Turramurra Avenue. Note that the R4
zoning encourages the amalgamation of these sites to provide good development
outcomes. The
R3 zoning on 1A · Only one vehicular and pedestrian access point from
Nulla Nulla Street, along a battleaxe entry – isolated with no street
frontage; · Narrow width limiting design opportunities for
townhouses; and · Shares boundary with 10 neighbouring properties, a
mix of single residential, townhouses, public infrastructure services and a
residential flat building under construction). Scheme
B (21 units and 8 townhouses) shows a concept for mixed R4 and R3 zonings, as
proposed under the current plan – 3 buildings- one larger apartment block in
the R4 zone (FSR 1:1, 2.6 storeys,
deep soil 54%) with access from Turramurra Ave, and 2 narrow townhouse blocks with
extensive driveways, poor amenity, with access from the battleaxe handle off
Nulla Nulla Street, FSR of 0.65:1, 2.5 storeys and deep soil of 42%.The R4
proposal provides better urban amenity and higher dwelling yields. Given
proximity to local shops and station, redevelopment should focus on optimal
dwelling yield. With an estimated additional 24,500 people aged over 65, and
an acknowledged increased need for smaller dwellings to accommodate single
and 2 person households, the current dwelling mix in the LGA, with only 5% of
dwellings as units, is no longer appropriate. Scheme A – 58 dwellings under
R4 - would increase the number of dwellings suitable for this demographic,
close to services and transport, as compared to Scheme B- 29 dwellings with
1A It
is noted that the proposed R3 zoning would allow amalgamation with It
is assumed the objectives for R3 in this location are to provide a transition
between zones and maintain character of Accordingly,
seek R4 zoning on 1A |
While
it is agreed that a more efficient development could be achieved on 1A, 3 and
· While the owners of 1 Nulla Nulla Street may not
wish to amalgamate at this time, the Local Centres Plan is expected to have a
life of about 20 years. Over the longer term, the isolation of 1 Nulla Nulla
Avenue is not a good planning outcome; · The R3 zone provides for a transition between the
high density along Turramurra Avenue and the low density heritage
conservation area along Ku-ring-gai Avenue.
A five storey development on this site may also have an adverse impact
on the heritage conservation area; · The concept plan for the R3 on · 1A Turramurra Avenue can also amalgamate with the
proposed R3 sites to the east, which would also avoid both the access issues
and the site width constraints identified by the submitter; · There is a need for more housing choice in
Ku-ring-gai, such as that provided by townhouses or villas; · Council is meeting its dwelling targets without the
need for residential flat buildings on this site. Public interest matters
identified above outweigh the desire to achieve the most efficient building
form and the maximum number of dwellings on the site; and · The R3 zoning and associated FSR and height are
appropriate in the circumstances. |
No
action recommended. |
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Heritage
- HCA |
In
Turramurra, only |
The
architectural period of development is Federation and Inter-war. Of high
contributory significance is St James Church, which is clearly visible from |
No action recommended. |
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Land
use zones – |
If
dual occupancy is permitted at |
Dual
occupancy under the Local Centres LEP is only permissible on existing
nominated dual occupancy sites identified under LEP 194. Property |
No action recommended. |
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Biodiversity
- |
The
biodiversity map shows biodiversity at the end of |
A
site inspection verified the presence of 2 angophora trees at the end of |
No action recommended. |
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Building
heights - |
The
height map permits 17.5m high buildings on |
The
FSR and the maximum building heights on these sites reflects the existing
development. Any overlooking of the HCA would already be apparent. |
No
action recommended. |
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Interface
planning - 17 Ku-ring-gai Avenue |
Submission
is concerned with the medium density zoning of residential properties on the
western side of Submission
discusses the extent of the residents’ investment in restoring the property
at no.17 Additionally,
the construction of townhouses and units in those areas means as a property
owner of a heritage item will be disinclined to invest money into the
maintaining property – which will ultimately result in the deterioration of
the residence. As
a consequence of this deterioration the heritage value of the property will
also diminish and in time the community will lose a landmark property and
left with an eyesore. 3
storey developments would result in overlooking impacts and an increase in
cars – adding to the traffic and congestion of |
It
is agreed that development directly to the rear of Where
possible, an R2 zoning has been applied on the interface of heritage
conservation areas. New
developments will be required to provide for their own parking needs on site,
including visitor parking |
That
property |
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